Trackman stats obviously don't mean that much either. Don't doubt the ability of some people to produce similar numbers to the pros. But he does not average those. Imagine being on the practice ground with Justin Thomas or Nelly Korda week in week out. What I find funny is the number of people on here that think it's ridiculous that an amateur golfer claims to have similar numbers to a professional. Copyright 2020 GolfWRX Holdings, LLC. If I slow it down some and shoot for 280-290, I hit more fairways. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Ball Speed - 185 mph[/background][/size][/color] The flight is reduced and the spin still remains. 52* & 58* Callaway MD2 // S-300 I'm not on here to impress anyone with my driving distance but that doesn't mean I didn't hit it that far. I, and many amateur golfers I play with on a regular basis, have the ability to hit the ball a long way. In the following table the list shows how far a selection of PGA and LPGA Tour pros hit their 3-wood, 5-wood and hybrid clubs. Not sure how you measure it down to the exact yard on an average driving range. Dustin Johnson can hit a putter 400 yards [/quote] It takes persistence and painstaking practice to regularly do drills designed to help improve your swing speed, not to mention the constant measuring to ensure you are in fact improving your swing speed. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364403614' post='6707409'] While golf has given Justin a career he thoroughly enjoys, he knows the life lessons golf can provide. I wouldn't take a trackman stat to the bank. That's what I think. So much so that if I'm 220 out, a distance I can reach with a perfect 5 wood, ill hit to 50, pitch, putt, par and drive you insane. The 12 felt good but the 8 slid through the turf and cushioned the ball off the face. I cant hide my excitement and love for a Vokey wedge and it doesnt change on these. I'm 6'3, in pretty good shape and played baseball my entire life. When we compare these stock yardages for irons between the pros we get a consistent view of yardage which we can accurately compare across the players. The longest player hits it 320 yards on average and the longest recorded drive in 2022 is 460 yards. This site is owned and operated by Add That Little Extra Limited, a private limited company whose registered office is in London, UK. You've given me a good laugh for two days now. As such, this article will focus on the performance of the average male amateur (AMA). [/quote] =t 'BRvGGs.Du="dP0 J/% Np^=+,5I,F5HH#418y\PuQ5) x9.>5?2P5@B$bz.k^OY<>Vf.%,(H8,~f3YzWBpj|!8K^E`$D &XP9gBTl+= Tg{\(k@bW6o9e:&x$hx"o0@:+}UnMD($R*3|>M}18&oA>m Ed&Z):Y{J|'@*bT6|QNbge2RU'02_^^{ They are clean and contemporary. (Unimpededof course, because we always were able to play during the week). <>stream You're delusional if you think any amateur on WRX that claims to have similar numbers to the longer pros thinks they are also as good as a tour pro. also his AoD on the stinger. I originally tried the 12 bounce in the 52 degree but I could feel the club stuttering in the turf at impact. Shaft: Graphite Design Tour AD IZ 7 S, Hybrid: Callaway Apex (19 degrees) You dont need to be depressed your swing speed is high enough to play very good golf. I guess what Im saying is if you dont hit the ball straight consistently and you dont make good, clean contact consistently, it would be silly to focus on things like swing speed/distance. Did your coach share the TrackMan report with you on mytrackman.com ? God how I loved playing golf. WebCongratulations to Justin Thomas with his latest victory at the Dell Technologies Championship, well played! Jon has proven that he is able to compete at the Don't doubt the ability of some people to produce similar numbers to the pros. What about this awesome drive from Dustin Johnson in Hawaii that everyone was talking about: So the drive went 433 yards. And for those golfers looking to make more substantial improvements to their game, the TrackMan Combine provides a roadmap for the improvement journey and accurate, immediate feedback at all checkpoints / stops along the way. The following chart shows average handicap versus average club speed. [quote name='jeffrey08250' timestamp='1364360280' post='6704435'] You can follow GolfWRX on Twitter @GolfWRX, Facebook and Instagram. Cobra Radspeed 5W RDX Blue, Mizuno Pro Fli Hi 4i Tour AD DI Web27K views, 94 likes, 1 loves, 33 comments, 13 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from TrackMan: Congratulations to Justin Thomas, winning the CJ Cup! I've had the privilege of playing with and watching tour players in person, so I know what they're capable of. The attention to detail from Bob Vokey is extraordinary and you can feel the change in strike as you try many different heads. Finally the bunker shot, this is where I feel Vokey really stand out and help my game. This is the site where we share everything we've learned. The new Vokey SM9 wedges has a focus on this exact shot by placing weight higher in the toe. Not sure how you measure it down to the exact yard on an average driving range. I'll pass. Not As Much As You Think! Justin credits his success on the PGA TOUR to a childhood full of direction, support, and love. He defeated Will Zalatoris in a 3-hole playoff to clinch the title for the second time. If length was a determing factor for professional status then we'd have the Wedge players tour and not the Long Drivers tour. Everyone has one. Add That Little Extra Limited is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees (at no cost to you) by linking to Amazon.com. When I watch professional events I am always taken aback by how high they hit their driver but how low they hit their wedges. Justins family and friends also know him as a kindhearted young man who goes out of his way to give back. And a good part of the reason for that is the average golfer often watches with wonder as the best players on the PGA GolfingFocus.com was created simply as a place to allow us to try and find answers to common golfing questions asked, and problems faced, by all standards of golfer. |K_ %E_{/{5* Bx2 @ xM6#N The false fronts, forced carries, and deep protecting bunkers are too difficult for the AMA to deal with. I agree with you 100%. When it comes to talking about distance in golf the easiest and most obvious place to start is of course always with the longest club in the golf bag the driver. Driver 6 Iron Brooks Koepka Related Posts Erik Van Rooyen Driver Numbers Sei Young I genuinely believe Vokeys make me a better bunker player, the SM8s changed my bunker game and these are just as good. In 2019, he launched the Justin Thomas Foundation, aimed to help military families, junior golf and children in need. Smash Factor 1.475 I bet your average golfer on your average course doesnt hit more than 160-175. I didnt start playing until i was 31 and it was over by 42 yet my handicap was 12. [quote name='Hamish777' timestamp='1364356541' post='6704153'] Hi I have always had an out to in swing until recent. The difference in a lot of longer amateurs and pros is control. Distance is great. Short hitter compared to the average WRXer I wouldn't take a trackman stat to the bank. People that take hole distance & distance on approach to calculate driving distance is what's funny. Dont think they ever release that stuff. Is here any benefit ideas about beginners level women, what you say? That means the par 4s would average 395 yards. Top 100 PGA Tour Player Analysis, What Clubs Do LPGA players use? Having the ability to hit it the ball as far as they can has nothing to do with me thinking highly of myself. I played Monday and hit my 1st 3 drives over 300 and in the fairway. I like to look at his averages on the tour seems to be more realistic data that is actually in play on tour. DShawn Johnson WebBut he picked up 25 yards for elevation, 25 for wind, and another 45 for extra roll. any 7 iron data ? I cant say I noticed the lower ball flight but this is something that Titleist have worked on gradually for the last few generations. WebThis is Justin Thomas TrackMan Numbers How does yours Compare? Yes, typically very short drivers of the ball are better iron players or wedge players. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Clubhead Speed - 125[/background][/size][/color] What I find funny is the number of people on here that think it's ridiculous that an amateur golfer claims to have similar numbers to a professional. [quote]I don't measure my driver distance. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Ratio - 1.48[/background][/size][/color] Other top articles related to this topic: Graeme Hay is the owner of GolfingFocus.com. Absolutely awesome numbers though. It doesn't take a genius to figure that one out. TrackMan session with Justin Rose and Sean Foley - YouTube 0:00 / 5:10 TrackMan session with Justin Rose and Sean Foley 158,856 views Feb 26, 2013 See how I already use the SM8s and having seen the drop off in spin and different performance of my swing (I am less steep at impact these days) I will be changing wedges. I remember they had the analysis of his 8 iron that he hit at firestone from like 200+ out in a golf digest or something a couple years ago don't remember any of the numbers unfortunately tho M2, maybe 915 FD 913 HD 712u 3 714 AP2 4-p SM5 53, 59 Circa62 knock it close Advanced Members 6.2k Feedback 0 0 0 Total Rating 0% Posted It is fun and I find that I usually am scoring better than I would say 90% of the guys I play with now, hitting on average longer than 90% and I realize that that is because shooting in the 90s means in golf you are better than most so above average which unless you played since a teenager and have no other life and want to play 4 to 5 days a week or more that is all you can ask for. Thomas is also only 1 of 6 players in PGA Tour history with 15 victories and 2 Majors before his 30th birthday, joining Jack Nicklaus, Johnny Miller, Tom Watson, Rory McIlroy and Tiger Woods. Official driving distance is only measured on two holes per round, which means you might get 50-60 shots in a year. Hang Time 5.8 If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. What about the balls we use. Your previous content has been restored. 5 0 obj Apex Height 112' 11" Shaft: Fujikura Ventus TR Blue 7 X, 5-wood: TaylorMade Stealth 2 Plus The "you have to be a tour player to hit a long way" mentality is comical to say the least. The numbers posted above are cool to me because you can see Tiger hits balls on the range like he does on the course. I think you wish you hit it further. As you can see, 45% have a club speed between 91 and 100 mph. But if you take the averages over a season you are going to get more than a good idea of how far the pros are hitting each club. If you are a right handed player the slice and above numbers could be due to a heel strike. Obviously not. Shaft: Aldila NV, Irons: Cobra Amp Forged (4-PW) Srixon WG-706 56 w/ Nippon Modus Prototype C10 S The AMA is capable of carrying the ball much further than his current total distance. Im a 42 year old 59 and been playing golf since I was 35. Youd be correct and that is why its always best to get fitted and discuss purchases with your pro. Lol, so true.. When you account for factors such as wind, elevation, ground conditions and also the context in which the shot is being played Koepka, like all the pros, has a number of options for each iron shot which makes the question of how far he hits each iron a bit more complex than at first you may think. My SM8 wedges are a few years old and have played over the recommended 75 rounds. Following 3 Trackman lessons and 4 Trackman practice sessions (and my own research) i have moved my swing path nearly 5 degree in to out. A lot of guys come from athletic backgrounds too, and maybe took up the game at an older age. Open navigation menu. Through such initiatives as the Justin Thomas Youth of the Year Leadership Academy with the Boys & Girls Club of Kentuckiana, USA Cares and the First Tee, Justin is committed to showing compassion, displaying kindness, and making a difference in the world. Or should i take control on the distance i have? There is nothing worse than getting the club stuck in the ground at impact. If I slow it down some and shoot for 280-290, I hit more fairways. Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. Firstly there is really no need to play an 8 iron that long, secondly why on earth would you play nothing but trap draws especially with short iron But he picked up 25 yards for elevation, 25 for wind, and another 45 for extra roll. The following graph shows a plot of the AMAs shots from 160 yards. Grip: SuperStroke Traxion Flatso 1.0. [/quote] My experience suggests that this is true. Odyssey Metal X Milled #1. The numbers posted above are cool to me because you can see Tiger hits balls on the range like he does on the course. We've enjoyed playing this great game with friends, family and competitors from all over the world for many years. While the length of the course is an important factor in scoring, more so is the challenging greens and required approach shots. Now that you guys have more and more data from the combine tests are you going to adjust the hcap chart. What is fascinating also though as you dig more into the figures is the distance control options the best players in the world have with almost every club in their bag! the TrackMan numbers below. [b]XHP 3-Deep (13)- 7.3X @ 43.5 I have been working around that weakness by using shorter clubs off the tee but it leaves me with much longer second shots. When it comes to looking at how far the pros hit their wedges the stock yardage they hit each club is again obviously only one of the multiple yardages they can hit the most versatile clubs in any players golf bag. With all the new technology that is now available in Drivers since this article came out, do you plan on updating the information. You can watch my full review via the Golfalot YouTube channel here: If you like what you see, please make sure you SUBSCRIBE to our YouTube channel to see all Golfalot video reviews and features first. I like to look at his averages on the tour seems to be more realistic data that is actually in play on tour. [quote]I don't measure my driver distance. By Learn how your comment data is processed. Top 50 Player Guide. Thankfully also the SM9s dont seem to be ripping the cover off your ball, but looking at the Trackman numbers the backspin was high which you'd expect from the milled grooves. Don't doubt the ability of some people to produce similar numbers to the pros. GHIN reported the average male handicap at 15.3 in 2003 and 14.3 in 2012. Most of the guys I play/practice with are +2 to 5 handicaps. What is evident is you obviously don't play with good amateur players. They make me giddy and want to practice my short game all the time. http://www.rotaryswing.com/golf-instruction/golfequipment/golf-launch-monitor.php, Short hitter compared to the average WRXer. Unless you're using the ball you play with every round, in the different conditions you play in, the numbers on the Trackman are null and void. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] They hit 52 gap wedges a stock carry distance of between 126 and 135 yards and carry 56 sand wedges an average distance of 119 to 124 yards. Obviously not. For example, I could average over 300 yards per round during the summer with a driver. Most of the guys I play/practice with are +2 to 5 handicaps. I would say probably is bs. NOW AVAILABLE: GolfWRX G/Fore Hats and Holderness & Bourne Polos! [/quote] I know I hit the ball a long way though. Heat treatment This treatment is now applied to the impact areas of the face to increase durability. [/color] To make such large scale improvements, we must first better understand the patientin order to diagnose the problems. Im a baseball coach who plays golf when I can. Im a 9 handicap wanting to get into the low single digits. Its important to know what grass you play, what course you play (be it links or parkland) and how you deliver the club at impact (steep or shallow). People that dwell on the fact that other people like to know their distances are funny. By adding 10 yards to every shot hit by the AMA from 160 yards, the percentage of shots that would hit the green increases from 38.5% to 44.0% and the average distance from the target decreases from 71.8 feet to 60.6 feet. [Note If you are interested in what drivers and fairway woods the top 100 PGA Tour players are using check out the in-depth analysis we have done here.]. Justin is that really you?? show the real time hit - then after the shot replay it with the numbers/tracer. Shaft: Aldila NV, 7-wood: Callaway Big Bertha 915 FD I have shot level round the chammpionship course on occasion also though. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Average Distance - 302 yards[/background][/size][/color] These 23 heads are available in three finishes: Jet Black, Tour Chrome and Brushed Steel. Driver: GolfWRX is on the ground in Orlando ahead of the 2023 Arnold Palmer Invitational at Bay Hill Club & Lodge. Hes learned nothing Olympic legend launches scathing attack on Tiger Woods over tampon apology, Golf fans left bemused following bizarre Jim Nantz blunder, Best driver 2023: Expert club fitters recommend the best driver for your swing speed, An UP-CLOSE look at Tiger Woods famous Scotty Cameron putter, David Feherty ridiculed for Greg Norman comment during LIV broadcast, Tour pro says LIV would be done if Brooks Koepka returned to PGA Tour, TOUR REPORT: McIlroy switches drivers during Genesis Invitational (plus Tigers iron change). Just ask Corey Pavin, Mark Wilson, Mike Weir, Fred Funk. Because of the trends and correlations found in the TrackMan Combine data, it is possible to calculate the proximity to hole for nearly any handicap or approach distance with high confidence. The title would be just as useful as well. 5 Testers Needed! The challenge is, improving your distance is a slow and arduous process. Its about 20% less when comparing PGA vs LPGA. Since SM6 Vokeys have evolved subtly to be exactly what tour players want. Too many people walking around either who hit one drive at 300 a round and the rest slice 100 yards that only go 200 straight trying to tell people how great they are at golf when in reality they take like 6 mulligans a round or guys that are actually really good think that they are the norm when in reality they are a small minority and golf would not even exist if it were not for guys like me . Have a look at his driver and 6 iron numbers below: Driver 6 Theyre familiar and consistent, you wont see Bob Vokey ever designing a wedge with a high toe or full face of grooves. Thats 95 extra yards, putting the actual distance of the drive under neutral conditions around 340 All rights reserved, https://justinthomasgolf.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Charles-Lambert-video-2.mp4, https://justinthomasgolf.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Justin-Thomas-2.mp4, https://justinthomasgolf.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/20220908_125734.mp4. And I suppose they hit it relatively far, but nearly the distances that the public thinks. This way the material is removed from the face and not spread out which means the grooves are sharper and weight isn't dispersed. I know I'm not a short hitter & I know there's a ton of bs on this board. Clear editor. This philosophy has been a revelation to me. Especially the average driving distance data. There are three finishes available in SM9: Tour Chrome (matte), Brushed Steel (shiny) and Jet Black (matte). After reading this article I did more research and discovered I should be playing nearly 1200 yards shorter, and doing so without shame. Imagine being on the practice ground with Justin Thomas or Nelly Korda week in week out. You can see the fuller head at the top of the toe in the lob wedges when the clubs are aligned next to each other, but you can only slightly notice a change in shape at address. Even my 4 iron ball speed max is 137 and Im getting 235 yards. It's not the length that makes a pro. It's the short game. You could take my woods and irons and pair it with Phil's wedge play and Stricker's putter and I'd be an average PGA tour player. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364414933' post='6708795'] [/quote] Its important for me to have a 58 degree that works first and foremost in a bunker and then to chip with, because I use my 52 to chip with more often than not as I like to see the ball on the ground and rolling towards the hole so it has a chance of dropping in. ;9#I 'S2G4Mi]JE You can check the combine driver stats here: https://mytrackman.com/#combine. Club head speed is around 90 MPH giving me a distance of 214 yrds. I think those numbers are a little high. Launch- 11.28, 9.71 low, 12.87 high Tee and Approach Shots! When looking at how the AMA performs, lets start with the drive. [color=#ff0000]I'd really like to see Tiger's path and face numbers too among others especially seeing how far left he aims at times. Commented here a while ago Im actually not sure before I used GPS through my mobile whether I hit it further than I do now. I don't measure my driver distance. Knowing tee shot distances and iron distances helps with that. Thanks to this impressive article, they will help more and more those who want to play golf. Sometimes I will hit a 270 once or twice a round maybe and then two or three more at 240, but I will mix in a few bad ones at 190 with a hook or a slice and the rest will be at least 215 to 220.

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